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Thu, 21 Nov 2024 00:32:08 -0600 Yom Chamishi, Chodesh Teshi'i 18, 6024 — יום חמישי חדש תשעי יח ו׳כד

Obsolete:
Calling The Hebrew Scriptures "Old!"

At The-Iconoclast, we take extreme umbrage at those persons that are convinced that the Hebrew Scriptures are obsolete. As you will see if read this page to the end, we consider that stance to be against the creator of the Universe, יְהֹוָה  [Yehovah] Himself!

We make no apology for holding to the belief that יְהֹוָה  [Yehovah] would "raise up" a prophet like Moses to call the nation of Israel to REPENT AND RETURN TO THE TORAH OF יְהֹוָה  [Yehovah]. We believe that if that "Prophet" were to come that there would be many adversaries ( הַשָּׂטָ֔ן  – "ha satan" — the adversary ) who would attempt to circumvent the intent to call the nation of Israel to repent and return to the Torah!

Deuteronomy 18:51–22

Yehovah thy God will raise up unto thee a prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; [verse 15]

נָבִ֨יא מִקִּרְבְּךָ֤ מֵאַחֶ֙יךָ֙ כָּמֹ֔נִי יָקִ֥ים לְךָ֖ יְהוָ֣ה אֱלֹהֶ֑יךָ אֵלָ֖יו תִּשְׁמָעֽוּן׃

טו

15

Yehovah thy God will raise up unto thee a prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

כְּכֹ֨ל אֲשֶׁר־שָׁאַ֜לְתָּ מֵעִ֨ם יְהוָ֤ה אֱלֹהֶ֙יךָ֙ בְּחֹרֵ֔ב בְּי֥וֹם הַקָּהָ֖ל לֵאמֹ֑ר לֹ֣א אֹסֵ֗ף לִשְׁמֹ֙עַ֙ אֶת־קוֹל֙ יְהוָ֣ה אֱלֹהָ֔י וְאֶת־הָאֵ֨שׁ הַגְּדֹלָ֥ה הַזֹּ֛את לֹֽא־אֶרְאֶ֥ה ע֖וֹד וְלֹ֥א אָמֽוּת׃

טז

16

according to all that thou desiredst of Yehovah thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of Yehovah my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not.

וַיֹּ֥אמֶר יְהוָ֖ה אֵלָ֑י הֵיטִ֖יבוּ אֲשֶׁ֥ר דִּבֵּֽרוּ׃

יז

17

And Yehovah said unto me, They have well said that which they have spoken.

נָבִ֨יא אָקִ֥ים לָהֶ֛ם מִקֶּ֥רֶב אֲחֵיהֶ֖ם כָּמ֑וֹךָ וְנָתַתִּ֤י דְבָרַי֙ בְּפִ֔יו וְדִבֶּ֣ר אֲלֵיהֶ֔ם אֵ֖ת כָּל־אֲשֶׁ֥ר אֲצַוֶּֽנּוּ׃

יח

18

I will raise them up a prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee; and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

וְהָיָ֗ה הָאִישׁ֙ אֲשֶׁ֤ר לֹֽא־יִשְׁמַע֙ אֶל־דְּבָרַ֔י אֲשֶׁ֥ר יְדַבֵּ֖ר בִּשְׁמִ֑י אָנֹכִ֖י אֶדְרֹ֥שׁ מֵעִמּֽוֹ׃

יט

19

And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

אַ֣ךְ הַנָּבִ֡יא אֲשֶׁ֣ר יָזִיד֩ לְדַבֵּ֨ר דָּבָ֜ר בִּשְׁמִ֗י אֵ֣ת אֲשֶׁ֤ר לֹֽא־צִוִּיתִיו֙ לְדַבֵּ֔ר וַאֲשֶׁ֣ר יְדַבֵּ֔ר בְּשֵׁ֖ם אֱלֹהִ֣ים אֲחֵרִ֑ים וּמֵ֖ת הַנָּבִ֥יא הַהֽוּא׃

כ

20

But the prophet, that shall speak a word presumptuously in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.

וְכִ֥י תֹאמַ֖ר בִּלְבָבֶ֑ךָ אֵיכָה֙ נֵדַ֣ע אֶת־הַדָּבָ֔ר אֲשֶׁ֥ר לֹא־דִבְּר֖וֹ יְהוָֽה׃

כא

21

And if thou say in thy heart, How shall we know the word which Yehovah hath not spoken?

אֲשֶׁר֩ יְדַבֵּ֨ר הַנָּבִ֜יא בְּשֵׁ֣ם יְהוָ֗ה וְלֹֽא־יִהְיֶ֤ה הַדָּבָר֙ וְלֹ֣א יָב֔וֹא ה֣וּא הַדָּבָ֔ר אֲשֶׁ֥ר לֹא־דִבְּר֖וֹ יְהוָ֑ה בְּזָדוֹן֙ דִּבְּר֣וֹ הַנָּבִ֔יא לֹ֥א תָג֖וּר מִמֶּֽנּוּ׃ ס

כב

22

when a prophet speaketh in the name of Yehovah, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which Yehovah hath not spoken: the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously, thou shalt not be afraid of him.


No doubt but that Western Culture has been greatly influenced by Christianity, so that many people know that when they hear anything like "a prophet like Moses" an association is made with the name of "Jesus"!

Acts 3:18–23 (ESV):

18 But what God foretold by the mouth of all the prophets, that his Christ would suffer, he thus fulfilled.

19 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out,

20 that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and that he may send the Christ appointed for you, Jesus,

21 whom heaven must receive until the time for restoring all the things about which God spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets long ago.

22 Moses said, ‘The Lord God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your brothers. You shall listen to him in whatever he tells you.

23 And it shall be that every soul who does not listen to that prophet shall be destroyed from the people.’


Acts 7:37 (ESV):

This is the Moses who said to the Israelites, ‘God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your brothers.’


Please know that we make a clear distinction between the actual person known as "Yeshua of Nazareth" verses the FICTIONAL "Jesus" promulgated by Saul of Tarsus (aka Paul, the false apostle!) the chief architect of the Christian Religious System.

It is our sincere hope that you are not confused between these two either!

John 8:31–32 (ESV):

31 So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed him, "If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, 32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."

Because we believe in the authority of the Hebrew Scriptures, we hold that there was a specific timeline given as to the appearance of that Messiah (see Daniel 9:24-27).

Daniel 9:24–27

שָׁבֻעִ֨ים שִׁבְעִ֜ים נֶחְתַּ֥ךְ עַֽל־עַמְּךָ֣ ׀ וְעַל־עִ֣יר קָדְשֶׁ֗ךָ לְכַלֵּ֨א הַפֶּ֜שַׁע וּלְהָתֵ֤ם ולחתם חַטָּאת֙ חטאות וּלְכַפֵּ֣ר עָוֺ֔ן וּלְהָבִ֖יא צֶ֣דֶק עֹֽלָמִ֑ים וְלַחְתֹּם֙ חָז֣וֹן וְנָבִ֔יא וְלִמְשֹׁ֖חַ קֹ֥דֶשׁ קָֽדָשִֽׁים׃

כד

24

Seventy weeks are decreed upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most holy.

וְתֵדַ֨ע וְתַשְׂכֵּ֜ל מִן־מֹצָ֣א דָבָ֗ר לְהָשִׁיב֙ וְלִבְנ֤וֹת יְרֽוּשָׁלִַ֙ם֙ עַד־מָשִׁ֣יחַ נָגִ֔יד שָׁבֻעִ֖ים שִׁבְעָ֑ה וְשָׁבֻעִ֞ים שִׁשִּׁ֣ים וּשְׁנַ֗יִם תָּשׁוּב֙ וְנִבְנְתָה֙ רְח֣וֹב וְחָר֔וּץ וּבְצ֖וֹק הָעִתִּֽים׃

כה

25

Know therefore and discern, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the anointed one, the prince, shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: it shall be built again, with street and moat, even in troublous times.

וְאַחֲרֵ֤י הַשָּׁבֻעִים֙ שִׁשִּׁ֣ים וּשְׁנַ֔יִם יִכָּרֵ֥ת מָשִׁ֖יחַ וְאֵ֣ין ל֑וֹ וְהָעִ֨יר וְהַקֹּ֜דֶשׁ יַ֠שְׁחִית עַ֣ם נָגִ֤יד הַבָּא֙ וְקִצּ֣וֹ בַשֶּׁ֔טֶף וְעַד֙ קֵ֣ץ מִלְחָמָ֔ה נֶחֱרֶ֖צֶת שֹׁמֵמֽוֹת׃

כו

26

And after the threescore and two weeks shall the anointed one be cut off, and shall have nothing: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and even unto the end shall be war; desolations are determined.

וְהִגְבִּ֥יר בְּרִ֛ית לָרַבִּ֖ים שָׁב֣וּעַ אֶחָ֑ד וַחֲצִ֨י הַשָּׁב֜וּעַ יַשְׁבִּ֣ית ׀ זֶ֣בַח וּמִנְחָ֗ה וְעַ֨ל כְּנַ֤ף שִׁקּוּצִים֙ מְשֹׁמֵ֔ם וְעַד־כָּלָה֙ וְנֶ֣חֱרָצָ֔ה תִּתַּ֖ךְ עַל־שֹׁמֵֽם׃ פ

כז

27

And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease; and upon the wing of abominations shall come one that maketh desolate; and even unto the full end, and that determined, shall wrath be poured out upon the desolate.

Appeared At Specific Time, Was 'Cut Off'!

Moreover, we hold that the person Yeshua of Nazareth is the only known historical person to have appeared at that specifically appointed time AND ALSO to have been "cut off", per Daniel 9:26 (see our page Can Mashiach Promised To Israel Actually Be Yeshua of Nazareth? for more information).

However, please be advised that to consider Yeshua of Nazareth as the "Prophet like unto Moses" – the promised Messiah to Israel (anointed one—as per the prophecy of Daniel 9) does not mean the strict adherence and de facto consideration of the preeminence of "the Christian Scriptures", aka the "New Testament", nor especially to calling it "Holy Scripture", as if it is in the same "league" as the Jewish Hebrew Scriptures.

It is noteworthy that the world has gotten its knowledge of Yeshua of Nazareth from Christianity's New Testament.

Yet, it is truly unfortunate that it appears that the "Christian Bible" has become AN IDOL by so many of its strict adherents, causing confusion, distortion and misinterpretation of the True Torah of יְהֹוָה [Yehovah]!

Of such, we consider them to be "New Testament Bible IDOLATORS"; i.e., those who are so convinced that there is no truth outside of what they have been directed to by none other than the "Self–Appointed Apostle Paul" (so they will not question their own beliefs, doctrines and sources for the same).

Many Christians actually consider their "Bible", their "New Testament Scriptures" to be Uniquely and Singularly "God Breathed".

In reality, we have observed that they treat their New Testament "Scriptures" as SUPERIOR to the Hebrew Scriptures, including the Torah – the Five Books – Directly Given To Moses By The Creator Of The Universe, יְהֹוָה  [Yehovah].

These Idolators act as if their New Testament "Scriptures" are absolutely without any error and that it actually SUPERSEDES / SUPPLANTS The Torah (The Five Books of Moses)! (Please see our page on Scribal Standards, in the section "Are There 'Scribal' Standards For the Word of G-d?")

Thus, self-proclaimed "Christian, New Testament 'Bible Believers'" interpret the Israelite Hebrew Scriptures predominantly through the filtered lens of their "New Testament Scriptures".

"OLD!"
They Call the Hebrew Scriptures And The Torah Given By יְהֹוָה  [Yehovah] To Moses As "OLD":

"In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away." [Hebrews 8:13 ESV]

Interestingly, many of them believe that their Jesus (according to Paul) is actually the Almighty Elohim (God), and they readily quote Hebrews 13:8 in their 'Scriptures':

"Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever." [ESV] (underline ours)

Yet, in practical terms, even though so many of them "consider" [Jesus] Elohim [God] "UNCHANGEABLE" we find it rather odd that they are quite ready to consider that the Israelite Hebrew Scriptures, especially with
THE DIRECTLY GIVEN COMMANDMENTS,
STATUTES and ORDINANCES
FROM
יְהֹוָה  [Yehovah], TO HAVE BEEN DONE AWAY WITH
by their uber apostle Paul!

"In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away." [Hebrews 8:13 ESV]

All of this is summed up neatly in Paul's seminal statement:
"Since You Are Not Under Torah"
"But Under Grace"

"For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace" [Romans 6:14 ESV]

Unfortunately, the majority of the books of the Christian Scriptures (New Testament) can be attributed directly to the false apostle and false prophet — Saul of Tarsus and to his chief biographer, Luke (for more information, see our page, Paul, the false apostle).

It is our belief that to hold Yeshua of Nazareth as the Messiah of Israel is to understand that the predominant (main) purpose for The Messiah was to have been to proclaim to the Israelite people to Turn/Return To Following The Torah of יְהֹוָה   [YehoVaH].

Yet, it appears to us that the predominant Christian view of the Torah, the Hebrew Scriptures, the Messiah and the Jewish way of life have been grossly and wrongfully interpreted, often to the point of perversion!

It is our opinion that that "perversion" has occurred because the man known to his followers as The Apostle Paul it is he who is the de facto Messiah in Christian religious worship and expression!

In fact, we believe that it is Paul's characterization of "Jesus" – and not the actual man Yeshua himself – that dominates Christian thought, doctrine and theology!

Moreover, because we hold the Hebrew Scriptures (Tanakh, which includes the written Torah) as our exclusive authority and prophetic reference, we can not even offer consideration for the belief that the Messiah was to come to call the Torah "old" essentially making it obsolete! nor to seek out and establish a new religion especially based upon "Scriptural" references predominantly quoting a foreign Greek Translation (Septuagint) instead of actual Hebrew Scriptures, nor to adhere (or succumb) to the easy teachings of one proclaiming first–hand knowledge of that Messiah but having never met Him! (of course, we are referring to the self-proclaimed apostle, Saul of Tarsus).


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